THe antique wooden swift I bought off eBay came yesterday and I have just taken a few minutes away from cooking Thanksgiving dinner to try it out with the alpaca I bought for CIC sweaters. With a few fits and starts (learning curve), I mastered both it and the ball winder and have wound 3 skeins into balls in the last few minutes Woo-hoo! I love it. I wish I could have paid cash, but I'm glad I bought them. More time for knitting, and the swift is very decorative too. Maybe someday a wooden ball winder too. I dislike plastic of all kinds more and more, and think the world would be a whole lot better off if most of it, especially packaging was simply eliminated.